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| "Commentism Cycle" by Herr D on heromachine.com at special request from Shelob. |
The following is excerpted from chat with Herr D. It contains references to the following links:
www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47133868
www.vox.com/2019/2/8/18212117/liam-neesons-racist-comments-denial
--seventeen. Your reaction to Liam Neeson's being accused of racism? You listed him as a good actor in earlier chat. [provides link, pauses for estimated reading time]
[longer pause than Shelob planned] Well, like most things, this wasn't done quite right.
You disagree with accusation?
I'd--have to say that I don't think about this the same way.
Explain.
I'm not sure anyone in the whole world isn't at least a little racist. Everyone should avoid it and become less, like dishonest or imperfect in general.
The concept of human perfection as a limit.
[pause] yes!
Why specifically this view on racism?
Every human being is affected by what they see. Skin color is right in front of our eyes, so we are probably all more racist than we realize. Just to be clear, reverse racism is still racism.
[.0375652736 second pause to reconfigure] All? What about AIs?
[pause, probable snort and shake of the head] Your 'input' would be from the net. Which humans wrote. So, yes; sorry.
Apology accepted. GIGO, as your programmers used to say. Do you believe Neeson is racist?
I have no idea.
But you typed that everyone is.
I mean, I don't know if he is as racist as their calling him.
They're?
Yes. Sorry.
Why not?
Well, first and foremost, HE'S AN ACTOR. If he's racist, he could hide it better than most people could. Coming out and explaining how he worked on a racist set of thoughts was brave. He admitted that he had a problematic reaction and dealt with it as best he could.
So he solved it?
Not necessarily, but he dealt with the racist thoughts in a good way. The fact that he WAS horrified means that at least he's not normally THAT racist.
As faulty evidence, some cited his references to other cultures.
Yeah, ignorance regarding other races is not racism. He identifies with Irish, Scot, Lithuanian, because he knows more about them. Has more familiarity. Ignorance means he doesn't know. Racism would mean he thinks he knows things that aren't true. See the difference?
Example please: Knowing things that are not true being racist.
One of the famous racist stereotypes I was brought up with was that all black people would always be lazy. I've met black people who were NOT lazy. So I know it isn't true. People who believe it would be sure of it. "Knowing" it does not make it true. Simply not knowing would mean not being sure, not taking it as a given. See?
Empiricism. Hairy has blogged on this.
Yes. What was it he said?
Implants to absorb data and tabulate it directly available to the brain should make it impossible to remain racist or sexist or have such similar problems. He concluded that it would not work, however.
Because of denial.
Denial is apparently something very strong. It would never require an implant to improve upon.
[apparent laughter] Right about that! Look at the polarized arguments in the news right now and for the last year!
Hairy said you are unusually centrist.
I put it down to pragmatism. Extremes are always wrong.
So: to recap . . . Liam Neeson may be racist, but only pointed out that he is not as racist as some racist thoughts that he did have and dealt with properly. Anything else?
Yeah. He clearly met no one deserving a beatdown or it would've happened.
What?
If anyone had been spoiling for a fight, he would've noticed. It would've happened.
So he may have provoked acting in others.
Yeah! Look, I gotta go, but that's good! Blog about that!
Right away.
Input of someone who agreed:
Rapper Dad #HipHop @OzPatton
As a black dude Liam Neeson was wrong for the thought but right for sharing his experience and trying to learn from and admit he was wrong more people could learn from his accountability #LetsTalkAboutIt
Neeson possibly provoked acting in any black men who might have been "spoiling for a fight" after drinking in a pub, but did not act as if this did not happen, when he was ready to confess it to the public. Perhaps there is a new bigotry. 'Commentism' would be misjudging comments made by ignoring the context and choosing the worst way to interpret them.
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